And did you come by train all the way to Nogales?
No, well, we got separated from each other again and some of them went that way and some went this way and I ended up here in Nogales and some of our friends who went to another place. They crossed already and they are on the other side already. My friends are already over there in the U.S. and I’m still here. So I thank God that they already made it through and are in the U.S.
So that’s why you took that picture?
Oh, so this is the railway, the train tracks, and that is the way we got here, by train. Well not by this one, but we rode the train and it reminds us of the train, because we came from Honduras on the train and there are good memories and bad memories.
Oh, tell me one good memory and one bad memory.
Those two on the picture look like brothers, they’re having a good time together and they’re resting. We are all in the same uncertainty, the same boat. Maybe some of these will go back, maybe some of these will continue to live in the U.S. maybe some will wait some more. There’s many who come here
for the first time and they feel the pressure, they are afraid and sometimes they just return without even crossing, without even trying.
So this is the Centro Beta?
Yes. That’s it.
And there is no one in the picture.
No, I just wanted to take a picture of the place without anybody there.
And how do you feel about being in that place?
Oh, it is really good. They gave us access to calls, to phone our relatives and we can stay there and it is okay.
I asked them to take a picture of me because I had been taking many other pictures and I did not appear in them... I was not in any picture. So I asked them to take a picture of me.
So how does it feel to be here in the picture?
Oh, it feels great. Now I will be there for a long time...
If your relatives saw this picture, what would they think of you?
I don’t know. Maybe they’d wonder what I’m doing around here.
And what are you doing here?
So are they all compañeros like you who are in the same situation as you, either recently deported or waiting to cross over?
Yes, they are all in the same situation. Some of them just deported and some of them coming here waiting to cross for the first time.
What if it was the other way around, that they were the photographer and you were the one having the picture taken?
Oh it would be the same. If they asked me and they wanted for the same reason, I would say yes.
So in the first picture is a person in the Beta Group... I met him there and he was recently deported. I asked permission from everybody to take pictures.
Why did you want to take this picture?
So I asked him if he wanted to take a picture and he said yes and I told him that I wanted to have a souvenir to remember them so he said yes.
Also, this is one of them, one of the friends?